Summary

Abrams begins this chapter by asking the men to describe how it is possible to experience joy in times of suffering and adversity. The Dalai Lama begins the discussion with a philosophical argument rooted in metaphors that suffering is “an opportunity destiny has given to you,” to “remain firm and maintain your composure” in times of distress (146). Archbishop Tutu, while praising the Dalai Lama’s statement, offers an answer more rooted in practicality, arguing that “you will be surprised by the joy the minute you stop being too self-regarding” (148). In other words, they key to remaining joyful, as the men have preached in previous chapters, is focusing on others, not on oneself.

A fluent dialogue ensues with few prompts from Abrams, allowing the men to dissect their ideas together. Archbishop Tutu marvels at the fact that the Dalai Lama...