Rock and Roll as utopia is a recurring idea. Bangs constantly holds out hope that rock and roll can lead to a better world, although he is very cynical about the actual prospects of that happening. First, for Bangs rock and roll is about freedom to do what one pleases. In Bangs' interview with Richard Hell, he seems to approve of Hell's idea that rock and roll allows a person to become something of his own making. Second, according to Bangs rock and roll should mean equality of many different kinds.