He arose and replied: 

“Madame, you are preoccupied by vain images; but I live in life and in truth.”

He shook the cobbler’s hand and followed the two ladies.

“While going to church,” he said, “I saw this old man, who, bending over his work, and pressing a last between his knees as in a vise, was sewing coarse shoes.  I felt that he was simple and kind.  I said to him, in Italian:  ‘My father, will you drink with me a glass of Chianti?’ He consented.  He went for a flagon and some glasses, and I kept the shop.”

And Choulette pointed to two glasses and a flagon placed on a stove.

“When he came back we drank together; I said vague but kind things to him, and I charmed him by the sweetness of sounds.  I will go again to his shop; I will learn from him how to make shoes, and how to live without desire.  After which, I shall not be sad again.  For desire and idleness alone make us sad.”

The Countess Martin smiled.

“Monsieur Choulette, I desire nothing, and, nevertheless, I am not joyful.  Must I make shoes, too?”

Choulette replied, gravely: 

“It is not yet time for that.”

When they reached the gardens of the Oricellari, Madame Marmet sank on a bench.  She had examined at Santa Maria-Novella the frescoes of Ghirlandajo, the stalls of the choir, the Virgin of Cimabue, the paintings in the cloister.  She had done this carefully, in memory of her husband, who had greatly liked Italian art.  She was tired.  Choulette sat by her and said: 

“Madame, could you tell me whether it is true that the Pope’s gowns are made by Worth?”

Madame Marmet thought not.  Nevertheless, Choulette had heard people say this in cafes.  Madame Marmet was astonished that Choulette, a Catholic and a socialist, should speak so disrespectfully of a pope friendly to the republic.  But he did not like Leo XIII.

“The wisdom of princes is shortsighted,” he said; “the salvation of the Church must come from the Italian republic, as Leo XIII believes and wishes; but the Church will not be saved in the manner which this pious Machiavelli thinks.  The revolution will make the Pope lose his last sou, with the rest of his patrimony.  And it will be salvation.  The Pope, destitute and poor, will then become powerful.  He will agitate the world.  We shall see again Peter, Lin, Clet, Anaclet, and Clement; the humble, the ignorant; men like the early saints will change the face of the earth.  If to-morrow, in the chair of Peter, came to sit a real bishop, a real Christian, I would go to him, and say:  ’Do not be an old man buried alive in a golden tomb; quit your noble guards and your cardinals; quit your court and its similacrums of power.  Take my arm and come with me to beg for your bread among the nations.  Covered with rags, poor, ill, dying, go on the highways, showing in yourself the image of Jesus.  Say, “I am begging my bread for the condemnation of the wealthy.”