That is the truth.  Now, you all remember that was a resolution censuring the President for the manner in which the war was begun.  You know they have charged that I voted against the supplies, by which I starved the soldiers who were out fighting the battles of their country.  I say that Ficklin knows it is false.  When that charge was brought forward by the Chicago Times, the Springfield Register [Douglas’s organ] reminded the Times that the charge really applied to John Henry; and I do know that John Henry is now making speeches and fiercely battling for Judge Douglas.  If the Judge now says that he offers this as a sort of setoff to what I said to-day in reference to Trumbull’s charge, then I remind him that he made this charge before I said a word about Trumbull’s.  He brought this forward at Ottawa, the first time we met face to face; and in the opening speech that Judge Douglas made he attacked me in regard to a matter ten years old.  Is n’t he a pretty man to be whining about people making charges against him only two years old!

The Judge thinks it is altogether wrong that I should have dwelt upon this charge of Trumbull’s at all.  I gave the apology for doing so in my opening speech.  Perhaps it did n’t fix your attention.  I said that when Judge Douglas was speaking at place—­where I spoke on the succeeding day he used very harsh language about this charge.  Two or three times afterward I said I had confidence in Judge Trumbull’s veracity and intelligence; and my own opinion was, from what I knew of the character of Judge Trumbull, that he would vindicate his position and prove whatever he had stated to be true.  This I repeated two or three times; and then I dropped it, without saying anything more on the subject for weeks—­perhaps a month.  I passed it by without noticing it at all till I found, at Jacksonville, Judge Douglas in the plenitude of his power is not willing to answer Trumbull and let me alone, but he comes out there and uses this language:  “He should not hereafter occupy his time in refuting such charges made by Trumbull but that, Lincoln having indorsed the character of Trumbull for veracity, he should hold him [Lincoln] responsible for the slanders.”  What was Lincoln to do?  Did he not do right, when he had the fit opportunity of meeting Judge Douglas here, to tell him he was ready for the responsibility?  I ask a candid audience whether in doing thus Judge Douglas was not the assailant rather than I?  Here I meet him face to face, and say I am ready to take the responsibility, so far as it rests on me.

Having done so I ask the attention of this audience to the question whether I have succeeded in sustaining the charge, and whether Judge Douglas has at all succeeded in rebutting it?  You all heard me call upon him to say which of these pieces of evidence was a forgery.  Does he say that what I present here as a copy of the original Toombs bill is a forgery?  Does he say that what I present as a copy of the bill reported by himself is a forgery, or what is presented as a transcript from the Globe of the quotations from Bigler’s speech is a forgery?  Does he say the quotations from his own speech are forgeries?  Does he say this transcript from Trumbull’s speech is a forgery?