you; I am not permitted to reveal this; if you do not believe me send to Poitiers.”  She said also that at her coming into France she had revealed these things, but could not now.  She was asked what was the age of her saints, but replied that she was not permitted to tell.  Asked, if both saints spoke at once or one after the other, she replied:  “I have not permission to tell you:  but I always consult them both together.”  Asked, which had appeared to her first, and answered:  “I do not know which it was; I did know, but have forgotten.  It is written in the register of Poitiers.”

“She then said she had much comfort from St. Michael.  Again, asked, which had come first, she replied that it was St. Michael.  Asked, if a long time had passed since she first heard the voice of St. Michael, answered:  “I do not name to you the voice of St. Michael; but his conversation was of great comfort to me.”  Asked, again, what voice came first to her when she was thirteen, answered, that it was St. Michael whom she saw before her eyes, and that he was not alone, but accompanied by many angels of Heaven.  She said also that she would not have come into France but by the command of God.  Asked, if she saw St. Michael and the angels really, with her ordinary senses, she answered:  “I saw them with my bodily eyes as I see you, and when they left me I wept, desiring much that they would take me with them.”  Asked, what was the form in which he appeared, she replied:  “I cannot answer you; I am not permitted.”  Asked, what St. Michael said to her the first time, she cried, “You shall have no answer to-day.”  Then went on to say that her voices told her to reply boldly.  Afterwards she said that she had told her King once all that had been revealed to her; said also that she was not permitted to say here what St. Michael had said; but that it would be better to send for a copy of the books which were at Poitiers than to question her on this subject.  Asked, what sign she had that these were revelations of God, and that it was really St. Catherine and St. Margaret with whom she talked, she answered:  “It is enough that I tell you they were St. Catherine and St. Margaret:  believe me or not as you will.”

Asked how she distinguished the points on which she was allowed to speak from the others, she answered, that on some points she had asked permission to speak, and not on others, adding, that she would rather have been torn by wild horses than to have come to France, unless by the license of God.  Asked how it was that she put on a man’s dress, she answered, that dress appeared to her a small matter, that she did not adopt that dress by the counsel of any man, and that she neither put on a dress nor did anything, but according as God, or the angels, commanded her to do so.  Asked, if she knew whether such a command to assume the dress of a man was lawful, she answered:  “All that I did, I did by the precepts of our Lord; and if I were bidden to wear another dress I