Mr. Richardson:  I beg to differ with you just the same.  I think if you want to spray you must spray at the time; it might rain the next day, and you might miss the whole season.

Mr. Dunlap:  There are a good many people who don’t like to go to the expense of a spray machine just for fifty trees or 100 trees.  If they would combine with a few neighbors they would do some spraying work, otherwise they wouldn’t do any at all.  If a man will buy a machine and do his own spraying, why, that is certainly the best thing to do, but if he won’t do that it is better to combine with his neighbors and do it than for none of them to do it.  Community spraying is the best thing to do if you have only small orchards.

Mr. Dyer:  What pressure would you recommend in spraying for codling moth where arsenate of lead is used?

Mr. Dunlap:  You can do effective spraying all the way from sixty pounds to 200 pressure.  My preference is about 150 pounds.  I have known instances where considerable injury was done by using too high pressure.  We have sprayed at 225 pounds, but we have given that up.  It is not as good as from 150 to 175 pounds.

Mr. Dyer:  I would like to know about what quantity of arsenate of lead and lime-sulphur combined would you recommend?  How much of each?

Mr. Dunlap:  In 100 gallons of water we put three gallons of the concentrated solution of lime-sulphur, as we buy it commercially, three gallons to 100 gallons of water, that is, for the summer spray, and for the arsenate of lead we use four pounds of arsenate of lead to the 100 gallons.

Mr. Dyer:  In connection with that I would like to ask if you have used or would recommend pulverized lime-sulphur?

Mr. Dunlap:  I haven’t used any.

Mr. Dyer:  Do you know anything about it?

Mr. Dunlap:  I think it is a more expensive proposition.

Mr. Dyer:  I never used any myself.  I thought perhaps that might work better in connection with the arsenate of lead than the liquid.

Mr. Dunlap:  I couldn’t say, I have always followed the policy of never departing from well-established lines of work until I am satisfied that the new one is absolutely all right.  I have seen in our state men destroy the fruit from a forty or eighty acre orchard by taking up some new thing that was highly advertised and looked very attractive.  It is not the same proposition, of course, but they tell us the devil comes in very attractive form.  He comes with a swallow-tail coat and a red necktie and a buttonhole bouquet, and he looks very attractive.  So it is with a lot of these things advertised; they look attractive but for our own good we ought to stick to the things we know and let the state experiment station try them and report upon them.

Mr. Huestis:  Does Mr. Dunlap attribute the general dropping of apples to the scab fungus?

Mr. Dunlap:  Not entirely.

Mr. Huestis:  Do you think that it weakens the stem of the apples?