Mr. Hegerle:  We have had a lot of trouble, and we are growing some of our vegetables.

Mrs. Glenzke:  You can raise four successive crops of peas on the same ground, and you can make that work all right.  They used to can squash, corn, tomatoes, and they have got down to peas entirely.

A Member:  Doesn’t most of that trouble arise from the low prices?

Mr. Hegerle:  No, not entirely.  The price when contracted is satisfactory, and we find in our experience in growing our own vegetables we can grow them cheaper than what we pay to the growers.  But we wouldn’t grow any if we could get the growers to bring them in when they are in the right shape.  When corn is at a certain stage to make a good canned article it has got to be brought in that day, and if the farmer don’t bring it, if he has a state fair on or a wedding or a funeral or something and delays it a day or two, then it is all off; that corn is lost.

Mr. Sauter:  I would like to know which is the best beans for canning, the yellow or the green?

Mr. Hegerle:  Well, we prefer the Refugee, both in wax and green.  We prefer them because they are the best in flavor we have.

Mr. Sauter:  Which is the best, the flat or the round of the wax?

Mr. Hegerle:  Round is preferred by the trade, by the grocers or jobbers.  I have kept the flat wax beans for my own use of those that we can.

Mr. Sauter:  Don’t the flat ones bring a little more than the round ones?

Mr. Hegerle:  Well, probably the first or second picking, but you can’t pick them as often as the other variety.  The Refugee you can pick four or five or six times, and the flat beans can only be picked two times.

Mr. Anderson:  I would like to ask what you pay for beans for canning purposes?

Mr. Hegerle:  We pay from 3/4 of a cent up to 4 cents a pound.  Sometimes a man brings in some that are almost too good to throw away, they are big and stringy, and rather than send them home we think we have got to take them and pay him something for them.  We would rather not have them, and we usually dump them.  Starting from that we pay up to three and four cents.  Four cents for well sorted and mostly small beans.  They have got to be graded, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.  Number 1 is the smallest, and they bring the best price.  We pay in proportion to the number 1’s and 2’s in the load.

Mr. Sauter:  What tomato do you find the best for canning?

Mr. Hegerle:  Well, the Earliana.

Mr. Sauter:  Do you have any trouble with those bursting the cans?

Mr. Hegerle:  No, sir.

Mr. Sauter:  We had that trouble in canning for our own use.  They burst the can, they expanded.

Mr. Hegerle:  That is the fault of the man, not of the tomato.

Mr. Sauter:  They were picked and canned the same day.

Mr. Hegerle:  Probably not sterilized enough.  Sterilizing fruit is the main thing.  A tomato is really one of the easiest things to can.