‘You said,’ continued the Bishop, ’that you had received many revelations both from God and from the saints. Suppose, then, that now some worthy person were to appear, declaring that they had received a revelation from God about your deeds, would you believe that person?’
To this the prisoner replied: ’There is not a Christian on earth, who, coming to me and saying that he came by such revelation, I should not know whether to believe or not, for I should know whether he were true or false by Saint Catherine and Saint Margaret.’
‘But,’ said Cauchon, ’do you imagine then that God is not able to reveal to some one besides yourself things that you may be ignorant about?’
Joan answered: ‘Without a sign, I should not believe man or woman.’
Then Cauchon asked Joan if she believed in the holy Scriptures?
‘You know that I do,’ she answered.
Then the Bishop again returned to the question whether or not the prisoner consented to submit herself to the Church Militant, by which the Church Temporal should be understood.
Now, as before, Joan of Arc’s answer was unchanged.
‘Whatever,’ she said, ’may happen to me, I shall neither do nor say anything further than that I have already declared during the trial.’
In vain all the venerable doctors present exhorted the prisoner to make her submission; they quoted Scripture, chapter and verse, to her (Matt. xviii.), without obtaining any more success than the Bishop had done.
As they were leaving the prison one of these ‘venerable doctors’ hissed to Joan: ’If you refuse to submit to the Church, the Church will abandon you as if you were a Saracen.’
To this Joan of Arc replied: ’I am a good Christian—a Christian born and baptized—and a Christian I shall die.’
Before Cauchon left his victim he made one further attempt to obtain a decided answer from Joan of Arc, this time making use of a bait which he thought must catch her—namely, permission to receive the Communion: ‘As,’ he said, ’you desire the Eucharist, will you, if you are allowed to do so, submit yourself to the Church?’
To this offer Joan answered: ’As to that submission I can give no other answer than that I have already given you. I love God; Him I serve, as a good Christian should. Were I able I would help the Church with all my strength.’
‘But,’ said Cauchon, ’if we were to order a grand procession to restore your health, then would you not submit yourself?’
‘I only request,’ she answered, ’that the Church and all good Catholics will pray for me.’
Some of the judges had suggested that, in a more public place than in her prison, Joan of Arc should be again admonished relating to the crimes of which she was accused; and Cauchon accordingly summoned a public meeting of the judges for the 2nd of May, to be held in a chamber near the Great Hall.
On that day sixty-two judges were present. Cauchon took care that the actual charges contained in the twelve articles which had been sent to the University should not be read in the presence of the prisoner, and told her that she had only been summoned in order to receive another admonition before a larger assemblage than had as yet met.