“Fair sir,” said Roger, “away from this place at least; for we are as yet over nigh to the Burg to be safe:  but as to elsewhither we may wend, thereof we may speak on the road as we have leisure.”

Therewith he smote his horse with his heel and they went forward at a smart trot, for the horses were unwearied, and the wood thereabouts of beech and clear of underwood; and Roger seemed to know his way well, and made no fumbling over it.

Four hours or more gone, the wood thinned and the beeches failed, and they came to a country, still waste, of little low hills, stony for the more part, beset with scraggy thorn-bushes, and here and there some other berry-tree sown by the birds.  Then said Roger:  “Now I deem us well out of the peril of them of the Burg, who if they follow the chase as far as the sundering of us and the others, will heed our slot nothing, but will follow on that of the company:  so we may breathe our horses a little, though their bait will be but small in this rough waste:  therein we are better off than they, for lo you, saddle bags on my nag and meat and drink therein.”

So they lighted down and let their horses graze what they could, while they ate and drank; amidst which Ralph again asked Roger of whither they were going.  Said Roger:  “I shall lead thee to a good harbour, and a noble house of a master of mine, wherein thou mayst dwell certain days, if thou hast a mind thereto, not without solace maybe.”

“And this master,” said Ralph, “is he of the Dry Tree?” Said Roger:  “I scarce know how to answer thee without lying:  but this I say, that whether he be or not, this is true; amongst those men I have friends and amongst them foes; but fate bindeth me to them for a while.”  Said Ralph reddening:  “Be there any women amongst them?” “Yea, yea,” quoth Roger, smiling a little, “doubt not thereof.”

“And that Lady of the Dry Tree,” quoth Ralph, reddening yet more, but holding up his head, “that woman whereof the Burgher spoke so bitterly, threatening her with torments and death if they might but lay hold of her; what wilt thou tell me concerning her?” “But little,” said Roger, “save this, that thou desirest to see her, and that thou mayest have thy will thereon if thou wilt be guided by me.”

Ralph hearkened as if he heeded little what Roger said; but presently he rose up and walked to and fro in short turns with knit brows as one pondering a hard matter.  He spake nought, and Roger seemed to heed him nothing, though in sooth he looked at him askance from time to time, till at last he came and lay down again by Roger, and in a while he spake:  “I wot not why ye of the Dry Tree want me, or what ye will do with me; and but for one thing I would even now ride away from thee at all adventure.”

Roger said:  “All this ye shall learn later on, and shalt find it but a simple matter; and meanwhile I tell thee again that all is for thy gain and thy pleasure.  So now ride away if thou wilt; who hindereth thee? certes not I.”