in exchange for her merchandise: but, at present,
these articles are to be counted as nothing. 2.
Potash. An experiment is making whether this can
be brought here. We hope it may, but at present
it stands for nothing. He observed that it was
much wanted in France, and he thought it would succeed.
3. Naval stores. Trials are also making
on these, as subjects of commerce with France.
They are heavy, and the voyage long. The result,
therefore, is doubtful. At present, they are
as nothing in our commerce with this country. 4.
Whale-oil: I told him I had great hopes, that
the late diminution of duty would enable us to bring
this article with advantage, to France: that
a merchant was just arrived (Mr. Barrett), who proposed
to settle at L’Orient, for the purpose of selling
the cargoes of this article, and choosing the returns.
That he had informed me, that in the first year, it
would be necessary to take one third in money, and
the remainder only in merchandise; because the fishermen
require, indispensably, some money. But he thought
that after the first year, the merchandise of the
preceding year would always produce money for the
ensuing one, and that the whole amount would continue
to be taken annually afterwards, in merchandise.
I added, that though the diminution of duty was expressed
to be but for one year, yet I hoped they would find
their advantage in renewing and continuing it:
for that if they intended really to admit it for one
year only, the fishermen would not find it worth while
to rebuild their vessels and to prepare themselves
for the business. The Count expressed satisfaction
on the view of commercial exchange held up by this
article. He made no answer as to the continuance
of it; and I did not choose to tell him, at that time,
that we should claim its continuance under their treaty
with the Hanseatic towns, which fixes this duty for
them, and our own treaty, which gives us the rights
of the most favored nation. 5. Tobacco. I
recalled to the memory of the Count de Vergennes the
letter I had written to him on this article; and the
object of the present conversation being, how to facilitate
the exchange of commerciable articles between the two
countries, I pressed that of tobacco in this point
of view; observed that France, at present, paid us
two millions of livres for this article; that for
such portions of it as were bought in London, they
sent the money directly there, and for what they bought
in the United States, the money was still remitted
to London, by bills of exchange: whereas, if
thy would permit our merchants to sell this article
freely, they would bring it here, and take the returns
on the spot, in merchandise, not money. The Count
observed, that my proposition contained what was doubtless
useful, but that the King received on this article,
at present, a revenue of twenty-eight millions, which
was so considerable, as to render them fearful of
tampering with it; that the collection of this revenue
by way of Farm, was of very ancient date, and that