Father Murray’s face was serious.  “I am deeply interested,” he said, “deeply, although it was only as I thought.  But tell me.  What led you to do this?  There must have been a reason formed in your mind.”

“I never thought of a reason at all; I just did it.  But now it seems to me that the reason was there, and that it was not a very worthy one.  I think I wanted to get away.  My social interest and comfort, my independence, all seemed threatened by my faith.  You will acknowledge, Father, that it is an interfering sort of a thing?  It hampers one’s actions, and it has a bad habit of getting dictatorial.  Don’t you see what I mean?”

“I do,” said the priest; and paused as if to gauge the sincerity of his companion.  “In fact, I went through a similar experience.”

“Then you can tell me what you think of my position.”

“I have already told you,” said the priest earnestly.  “You are the one to do the thinking now.  All I can do is to point out the road by which you may best retrace your way.  You have told me just what I expected to hear; I admire your honesty in telling it—­not to me, but to yourself.  Don’t you see that your reason for deserting your Faith was but a reason for greater loyalty?  The oldest idea of religion in the world, after that of the existence and providence of God, is the idea of sacrifice.  Even pagans never lost that idea.  Nothing in this world is worth having but must be paid for.  Its cost is summed up in sacrifice.  Now, religion demands the same.  If it calls for right living, it calls for the sacrifice that right living demands.  An athlete gets his muscle and strength, not by coddling his body, but by restraining its passions and curbing its indolence, by working its softness into force and power.  A river is bound between banks, and only thus bound is it anything but a menace.  If a church claims to have the Truth, she forfeits her first claim to a hearing if she asks for no sacrifice.  That your Church asked many sacrifices was no cause for your throwing her over, but a sign that she claimed the just right to put religion in positive form, and to give precepts of sacrifice, without the giving of which she would have no right to exist at all.  Am I clear?”

“You are clear, Father, and I know you are right.  I have never been able to leave my own Faith entirely out of the reckoning.  I am not trying to excuse myself.  I could not ignore it, for it intruded itself and forced attention.  In fact, it has been forcing itself upon me most uncomfortably, especially of late years.”

“Again,” said Father Murray, “a reason why you should have attended to it.  If there is a divine revelation confided to the care of a church, that revelation is for the sake of men and not for the sake of the church.  A church has no right to existence for its own sake.  He was a wise Pope who called himself ‘Servant of the Servants of God.’  The position of your