I went to see this reverend pastor, who is professor of a school of Dopper theology.  He was short, but thick-set, with a short but shaggy grey beard; in deference to his calling, he wore a collar over his grey flannel shirt, but no tie.  Nevertheless, he turned out a very charming, courteous old gentleman, well informed, and his political bias was mellowed with an irresistible sense of humour.  He took his own side strongly, and allowed that it was most proper for a Briton to be equally strong on his own.  And this is more or less what he said:—­

“Information?  No, I shall not give you any; you are the enemy, you see.  Ha, ha!  They call me rebel.  But I ask you, my friend, is it natural that I—­I, Hollander born, Dutch Afrikander since ’60—­should be as loyal to the British Government as a Britisher should be?  No, I say; one can be loyal only to one’s own country.  I am law-abiding subject of the Queen, and that is all that they can ask of me.

“How will the war go?  That it is impossible, quite impossible, to say.  The Boer might run away at the first shot and he might fight to the death.  All troops are liable to panic; even regular troop; much more than irregular.  But I have been on commando many times with Boer, and I cannot think him other than brave man.  Fighting is not his business; he wishes always to be back on his farm with his people; but he is brave man.

“I look on this war as the sequel of 1881.  I have told them all these years, it is not finish; war must come.  Mr Gladstone, whom I look on as greatest British statesman, did wrong in 1881.  If he had kept promises and given back country before the war, we would have been grateful; but he only give it after war, and we were not grateful.  And English did not feel that they were generous, only giving independence after war, though they had a large army in Natal; they have always wished to recommence.

“The trouble is because the Boer have never had confidence in the English Government, just as you have never had confidence in us.  The Boer have no feeling about Cape Colony, but they have about Natal; they were driven out of it, and they think it still their own country.  Then you took the diamond-fields from the Free State.  You gave the Free State independence only because you did not want trouble of Basuto war; then we beat the Basutos—­I myself was there, and it was very hard, and it lasted three years—­and then you would not let us take Basutoland.  Then came annexation of the Transvaal; up to that I was strong advocate of federation, but after that I was one of founders of the Bond.  After that the Afrikander trusted Rhodes—­not I, though; I always write I distrust Rhodes—­and so came the Jameson raid.  Now how could we have confidence after all this in British Government?

“I do not think Transvaal Government have been wise; I have many times told them so.  They made great mistake when they let people come in to the mines.  I told them, ’This gold will be your ruin; to remain independent you must remain poor.’  But when that was done, what could they do?  If they gave the franchise, then the Republic is governed by three four men from Johannesburg, and they will govern it for their own pocket.  The Transvaal Boer would rather be British colony than Johannesburg Republic.