I told them of dear John’s conversion, and of my disappointment and distress on account of it; then of my own conversion, and John’s unbounded joy; taking the opportunity to enforce the absolute necessity of this spiritual change, and the certain damnation of those who die without it.

This funeral caused a solemn feeling, and as the people lingered about, we re-entered the church, and further improved the occasion.  Then we went to the schoolroom for a prayer-meeting, and many souls were added to the number of the saved.

Among the strangers present was a gentleman who had come all the way from Plymouth, in order to witness for himself the wonderful work, of which he had read an account in the newspaper.  After attending several of our services, he came up to speak to me, and said that he had seen an account of “the fall of a High Churchman into Dissent,” which was regarded as a very extraordinary thing, for at that time some Dissenters were becoming High Churchmen, or what used to be called then “Puseyites.”  Having seen me, and heard for himself of my conversion, and my adherence to the Church, he was satisfied, and asked me to spare time for a little conversation with him.

He came to my house the next morning, and commenced by asking, “Do you really think you would have been lost for ever, if you had died before you were converted?” This he said looking me full in the face, as if to see whether I flinched from my position.  I answered, “Most certainly; without a doubt.”

“Remember,” he said, calmly, “you have been baptized and confirmed; you are a communicant, and have been ordained; do you really think that all this goes for nothing?”

“Most assuredly, all these things are good in their place, and fully avail for their respective purposes, but they have nothing whatever to do with a sinner’s salvation.”

“Do you mean to say,” he continued, “that the Church is not the very ark of salvation?”

“I used to think so,” I replied, “and to say that ’there was no Church without a Bishop, and no salvation out of the Church;’ but now I am sure that I was mistaken.  The outward Church is a fold for protecting the sheep; but the Church is not the Shepherd who seeks and finds the lost sheep.”

“Well,” he said, “but think of all the good men you condemn if you take that position so absolutely.”

Seeing that I hesitated, he went on to say that he “knew many very good men, in and out of the Church of England, who did not think much of conversion, or believe in the necessity of it.”

“I am very sorry for them,” I replied; “but I cannot go back from the position into which, I thank God, He has brought me.  It is burned into me that, except a man is converted, he will and must be lost for ever.”  “Come, come, my young friend,” he said, shifting his chair, and then sitting down to another onslaught, “do you mean to say that a man will go to hell if he is not converted, as you call it?”