Interviewer:  Miss Irene Robertson
Person interviewed:  Frances Fluker, Edmondson, Arkansas
Age:  77
[May 11 1938]

“I was born the 25th day of December 1860 in Marshall County, Mississippi.  Our owners was Dr. George Wilson and Mistress Mary.  They had one son I knowed, Dr. Wilson at Coldwater, Mississippi.  My parents was Viney Perry and Dock Bradley.

“I never seen my pa.  I heard about him since I been grown.  He left when the War was going on and never went back.  Mama had ten children and I am all that’s living now.  Old mistress set my name and age down in her Bible.  I sent back and my niece just cut it out and sent it to me so I could get my pension.  I pasted it in the front of my Bible.  I was never sold.  It was freedom when I first recollect.

“Ma was the cook for the white folks.  Grandma Perry come from North Carolina I heard ’em say.  She was a widow woman.  When company come they would send us out to play.  They never talked to us children, no ma’am, not ’fore us neither.  I come a woman ’fore I knowed what it was.  My sisters knowed better than tell me.  They didn’t tell me nothin’.

“When it wasn’t company at ma’s they was at work and singing.  At night we was all tired and went to bed ’cause we had to be up by daybreak—­children and all.  They said it caused children’s j’ints to be stiff sleeping up in the day.  All old folks could tell you that.

“This young set ain’t got no strength neither.  Ma cooked and washed and raised five children up grown.  The slaves didn’t get nary thing give ’em in the way of land nor stock.  They got what clothes they had and some provisions.

“Ma was ginger cake.  They said pa was black.  I don’t know.  Grandma was reddish and lighter still than ma.  They said she was part Cherokee Indian.  Her hair was smooth and pretty.  She combed her hair with the fine comb to bring the oil out on it and make it slick.  I recollect her combing her hair.  It was long about on her shoulders.

“I heard about the Ku Klux but I never seed none of ’em.  Ma said her owners was good to her.  Ma never had but one husband.

“I come to Arkansas 1921.  Mr. Passler in Coldwater, Mississippi had bought a farm at Onida.  We had worked for him at Lula, Mississippi.  Me and my husband come here.  My husband died the first year.  I cooked some in my younger days but field work and washing was my work mostly.  I like’ field work long as I was able to go.

“My first husband cleared up eighty acres of land.  He and myself done it, we had help.  We got in debt and lost it.  He bought the place.  That was in Pinola County close to Sardis.  I had four children.  One daughter living.

“What I think it was give me rheumatism was I picked cotton, broke it off frozen two weeks on the sleet.  I picked two hundred pounds a day.  I got numb and fell and they come by and got a doctor.  He said it was from overwork.  I got over that but I had rheumatism ever since.