Interviewer:  Mrs. Bernice Bowden
Person interviewed:  Mary Flagg
                    1601 Georgia Street, Pine Bluff, Arkansas
Age:  89

“Yes’m, I was here in Civil War days.  I was bout twelve years old when Lincoln was elected.  I remember when he was elected.  I was big enough to weave and knit for the soldiers.  I remember when the war started.  Yes ma’m—­oh I remember so much.  Saw all the soldiers and shook hands with em.  Why I waited on the table when General Lee stopped there for dinner on his way from Mobile to meet Sherman.  That was in Winchester, Mississippi where I was born.  I worked in a hotel, yes ma’m.  I was raised up in a hotel, called em taverns in those days.  I was born right in Winchester, Mississippi.  Used to see the soldiers drill every day.  If I could remember, I could tell you a heap of things.

“My mistress’ name was Mrs. Shaw.  She took me away from my mother when I was four years old—­taken me for her body servant.  She learned me how to do housework and all kinds of sewin’—­cuttin’ and makin’.  I done all the sewin’ for her family.

“I never went to no school but Mrs. Shaw tried to teach me and she slapped my jaws many a day bout my book.

“I married when I was fifteen just fore the war ended and I forgot everything I ever learned—­yes ma’m!  I been married four times and they’re all dead.  I never married when any of em was livin’ like a heap of colored folks did.

“The Yankees come within fifty miles of where we was livin’ and then they burned the bridge and turned back.  White folks never told us what the war was for but a old German man used to read the paper at the table—­every battle they’d fight and when the Yankees would whip.  Oh them was times then.  If I could remember I could tell you a heap of things but my mind’s gone from me.

“Old master had about a hundred head of hands and old mistress had a cousin had five hundred.

“White folks was good to me.  My father was the carriage driver and old mistress used to carry me to church with her every Sunday.

“I never seen no Ku Klux but I lived where they was, in Mississippi.  That was a Ku Klux state.  Yes ma’m.

“I remember when General Lee come to Winchester you could hear the horses’ feet a mile away, it so cold.

“My great grandfather was a full blooded Indian.  I’ve lived among the Indians in Mississippi and bought baskets from em.  They lived all around us.  Yes ma’m, I’m acquainted with em.  Oh, I been through a little bit.

“I started sewin’ and weavin’ when I was just big enough to reach the treadles.  Used to sew for Mrs. Hulburt in Bolivar County, Mississippi.  I remember she started to the Mardi Gras on a boat called the Mary Bell.  It got burned and she had to turn back.  I used to do a heap a sewin’.

“Everythings changed now.  People is so treacherous now.  Chile, ain’t nothin’ to this younger generation.  Now I’m tellin’ you the truth.  They ain’t studyin’ nothin’ good.  Sin and corruption all you see now.