the unpleasant consequences it has produced—­mean the imputation of assassination and massacre, which has given me a great deal more trouble than anything else in this case.  That disposes—­as far as I can at present dispose of it—­of the charge of wishing to assassinate the landlords.  As to the charge of desiring to assassinate the priests, I deny it as being the most monstrous thing in the world.  Why, surely, every one who read the articles in the paper would see that the plain doctrine laid down there was—­to reverence the priests so long as they confined themselves to their sacerdotal functions; but when the priest descended to the arena of politics he became no more than any other man, and would just be regarded as any other man.  If he was a man of ability and honesty, of course he would get the respect that such men get in politics—­if he was not a man of ability there would be no more thought of him than of a shoemaker or any one else.  This is the teaching of the Irish People with regard to the priests.  I believe the Irish People has done a great deal of good, even amongst those who do not believe in its revolutionary doctrines.  I believe the revolutionary doctrines of the Irish People are good.  I believe nothing can ever save Ireland except independence; and I believe that all other attempts to ameliorate the condition of Ireland are mere temporary expedients and make shifts——­”

   Mr. Justice Keogh—­“I am very reluctant to interrupt you, Mr. Luby.”

Mr. Luby—­“Very well, my lord, I will leave that.  I believe in this way the Irish People has done an immensity of good.  It taught the people not to give up their right of private judgment in temporal matters to the clergy; that while they reverenced the clergy upon the altar, they should not give up their consciences in secular matters to the clergy.  I believe that is good.  Others may differ from me.  No set of men I believe ever set themselves earnestly to any work, but they did good in some shape or form.”

   Judge Keogh—­“I am most reluctant, Mr. Luby, to interrupt you, but do
   you think you should pursue this!”

Mr. Luby—­“Very well, I will not.  I think that disposes of those things.  I don’t care to say much about myself.  It would be rather beneath me.  Perhaps some persons who know me would say I should not have touched upon the assassination charge at all—­that in fact I have rather shown weakness in attaching so much importance to it.  But, with regard to the entire course of my life, and whether it be a mistaken course or not will be for every man’s individual judgment to decide—­this I know, that no man ever loved Ireland more than I have done—­no man has ever given up his whole being to Ireland to the extent I have done.  From the time I came to what has been called the years of discretion, my entire thought has been devoted to Ireland.  I believed the course I pursued was