Again, Phippen Knapp is directly contradicted by Mr. Wheatland.  Mr. Wheatland tells the same story, as coming from Phippen Knapp, that Colman now tells.  Here there are two against one.  Phippen Knapp says that Frank made no confessions, and that he said he had none to make.  In this he is contradicted by Wheatland.  He, Phippen Knapp, told Wheatland, that Mr. Colman did ask Frank some questions, and that Frank answered them.  He told him also what these answers were.  Wheatland does not recollect the questions or answers, but recollects his reply; which was, “Is not this premature?  I think this answer is sufficient to make Frank a principal.”  Here Phippen Knapp opposes himself to Wheatland, as well as to Mr. Colman.  Do you believe Phippen Knapp against these two respectable witnesses, or them against him?

Is not Mr. Colman’s testimony credible, natural, and proper?  To judge of this, you must go back to that scene.

The murder had been committed; the two Knapps were now arrested; four persons were already in jail supposed to be concerned in it, the Crowninshields, and Selman, and Chase.  Another person at the Eastward was supposed to be in the plot; it was important to learn the facts.  To do this, some one of those suspected must be admitted to turn state’s witness.  The contest was, Who should have this privilege?  It was understood that it was about to be offered to Palmer, then in Maine; there was no good reason why he should have the preference.  Mr. Colman felt interested for the family of the Knapps, and particularly for Joseph.  He was a young man who had hitherto maintained a fair standing in society; he was a husband.  Mr. Colman was particularly intimate with his family.  With these views he went to the prison.  He believed that he might safely converse with the prisoner, because he thought confessions made to a clergyman were sacred, and that he could not be called upon to disclose them.  He went, the first time, in the morning, and was requested to come again.  He went again at three o’clock; and was requested to call again at five o’clock.  In the mean time he saw the father and Phippen, and they wished he would not go again, because it would be said the prisoners were making confession.  He said he had engaged to go again at five o’clock; but would not, if Phippen would excuse him to Joseph.  Phippen engaged to do this, and to meet him at his office at five o’clock.  Mr. Colman went to the office at the time, and waited; but, as Phippen was not there, he walked down street, and saw him coming from the jail.  He met him, and while in conversation near the church, he saw Mrs. Beckford and Mrs. Knapp going in a chaise towards the jail.  He hastened to meet them, as he thought it not proper for them to go in at that time.  While conversing with them near the jail, he received two distinct messages from Joseph, that he wished to see him.  He thought it proper to go; and accordingly went to Joseph’s cell, and it was while there that the