stop.  There was a big crowd.  Yes mam, dressed up, and a little provisions and clothes fixed up.  Jes’ could take along a little.  They say it would be crowded so.  We stayed around here a week or two waitin’ to hear somethin’ or be ready to go.  Most everybody stayed prutty close to the depot for two or three days.  Yes mam there sho was a crowd—­a whole big train full from here ‘sides the other places.  I jes’ stayed here an’ been here ever since.  The depot agent, he told ’em he didn’t know ’bout no train going to Africa.  The tickets was no good on his trains.

“How I owns this place, I’ll tell you.  A man here had all dis land ’round here (Negro town) laid off.  He couldn’t sell none of his lots.  They wouldn’t buy his lots.  So he got after me.  We had made a good crop, so I got up the money and bought this place.  One hundred dollars is what I give him.  Others then started to settlin’ in and about close to my place.

“I guess it was Spotsells in Virginia what raised her.  She say her name was Lizzie Spotsell Johnson.  Then when Ephram Hester bought her they learned her to do about in their house.  She cooked and swept and knocked flies and tended to the children.  She stayed with ’em a pretty long time till she run off and went to Fryers Point.

“She may have told us about the Nat Turner rebellion but I don’t remember it.  They sung a lot in my mother’s time.  Seemed lack they was happier than we are somehow.  She sung religious songs and one or two field songs.  I don’t recollect ’em now.

“I never did vote.  I never cared nuthin’ about it.  Some of ’em ’round here wouldn’t miss votin’ for nothin’.

“Lawd me, chile, the times is done run ahead of me now.  I’m so fur behind I never expect to catch up.  I don’t pay no more attention to the young folks, the way they act now, ’an I do my little dog there.  They don’t want no advice and I would be afraid I would ’vise ’em wrong.  When my children come I tell ’em you are grown and you knows right from wrong.  Do right.  That’s all I know to say.

“The way I am supported is my husband gets all the jobs he able to do and can and the governmint give me an’ him $10 a month.  We has a little garden.”

Interviewer:  Miss Irene Robertson
Person interviewed:  William Henry Rooks
                    Baptist Preacher; Brinkley, Arkansas
Age:  84

The slaves didn’t spect nothing but freedom.  Jes freedom!  In Africa they was free as wild animals and then they was so restricted.  Jes put in bondage for no reason at all.

No plantations was divided.  I was born a slave and I remembers right smart how it was.

My master was John Freeman and his wife’s name was Fannie.  I went to Como, Mississippi twice a week to get the mail all durin the war.  It was eight miles.  I rode a pony.

If you go to church you have to have a pass from the master.  The pattyrollers see you and you have to show it to them.  It was just a note.  If you didn’t have it they take or send you home.  If they catch you any more without a pass they whip you.  They come to the church and in all public places like the police stands around now.  They rode around mostly.  Sometimes they went in droves.