oppression to commerce, that he shall be obliged to
vote for the vicious principle of equality in the second
branch, in order to provide some defence for the Northern
States against it. But to come more to the point,
either this distinction is fictitious or real; if
fictitious, let it be dismissed, and let us proceed
with due confidence. If it be real, instead of
attempting to blend incompatible things, let us at
once take a friendly leave of each other. There
can be no end of demands for security, if every particular
interest is to be entitled to it. The Eastern
States may claim it for their fishery, and for other
objects, as the Southern States claim it for their
peculiar objects. In this struggle between the
two ends of the Union, what part ought the Middle States,
in point of policy, to take? To join their Eastern
brethren, according to his ideas. If the Southern
States get the power into their hands, and be joined,
as they will be, with the interior country, they will
inevitably bring on a war with Spain for the Mississippi.
This language is already held. The interior country,
leaving no property nor interest exposed to the sea,
will be little affected by such a war. He wished
to know what security the Northern and Middle States
will have against this danger. It has been said
that North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia only,
will in a little time have a majority of the people
of America. They must in that case include the
great interior country, and every thing was to be apprehended
from their getting the power into their hands.
Mr. Butler (of South Carolina). The security
the Southern States want is, that their negroes may
not be taken from them, which some gentlemen within
or without doors have a very good mind to do.
It was not supposed that North Carolina, South Carolina
and Georgia, would have more people than all the other
States, but many more relatively to the other States,
than they now have. The people and strength of
America are evidently bearing southwardly, and southwestwardly.
On the question to strike out wealth, and to
make the change as moved by Mr. Randoph (of Virginia),
it passed in the affirmative,— Massachusetts,
Connecticut, New-Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia,
North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, aye—9;
Delaware, divided. pp. 1090-1-2-3-4.
SATURDAY, July 14, 1787.
Mr. Madison (of Virginia). it seemed now pretty well
understood, that the real difference of interests
lay, not between the large and small, but between
the Northern and Southern States. THE INSTITUTION
OF SLAVERY, AND ITS CONSEQUENCES, FORMED THE LINE
OF DISCRIMINATION. p. 1104.
MONDAY, July 23, 1787.
General Pinckney reminded the Convention, that if
the Committee should fail to insert some security
to the Southern States against an emancipation of
slaves, and taxes on exports, he should be bound by
duty to his State to vote against their report. p.
1187.