serious disadvantages. In the old days they were
able to command the services on the Indian committees,
of ex-Ministers, of members of this House and members
of another place, who had had much experience of Indian
administration, and I am doubtful, considering the
preoccupations of public men, whether we should now
be able to call a large body of experienced administrators,
with the necessary balance between the two Houses,
to sit on one of these committees. And then I
would point out another disadvantage. You would
have to call away from the performance of their duties
in India a large body of men whose duties ought to
occupy, and I believe do occupy, all their minds and
all their time. Still it is an idea, and I will
only say that I do not entirely banish it from my
own mind. Two interesting speeches, and significant
speeches, have been made this afternoon. One was
made by my hon. friend, the mover, and the other by
the hon. Member for East Leeds. Those two
speeches raise a really important issue. My hon.
friend the Member for Leeds said that democracy was
entirely opposed to, and would resist, the doctrine
of the settled fact.[1] My hon. friend tells you democracy
will have nothing to do with settled facts, though
he did not quite put it as plainly as that. Now,
if that be so, I am very sorry for democracy.
I do not agree with my hon. friend. I think democracy
will be just as reasonable as any other sensible form
of government, and I do not believe democracy will
for a moment think that you are to rip up a settlement
of an administrative or constitutional question, because
it jars with some abstract a priori idea.
I for one certainly say that I would not remain at
the India Office, or any other powerful and responsible
Departmental office, on condition that I made short
work of settled facts, hurried on with my catalogue
of first principles, and arranged on those principles
the whole duties of government. Then my hon. friend
the Member for Brentford quoted an expression of mine
used in a speech in the country about the impatient
idealists, and he reproved me for saying that some
of the worst tragedies of history had been wrought
by the impatient idealists. He was kind enough
to say that it was I, among other people, who had
made him an idealist, and therefore I ought not to
be ashamed of my spiritual and intellectual progeny.
I certainly have no right whatever to say that I am
ashamed of my hon. friend, who made a speech full
of interesting views, full of visions of a millennial
future, and I do not quarrel with him for making his
speech. My hon. friend said that he was for an
Imperial Duma. The hon. Gentleman has had
the advantage of a visit to India, which I have never
had. I think he was there for six whole long
weeks. He polished off the Indian population
at the heroic rate of sixty millions a week, and this
makes him our especially competent instructor.
His Imperial Duma was to be elected, as I understood,
by universal suffrage.